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Full Show ( C.J. Stroud 2nd in MVP odds, Joel Embiid says he is 'hated" in NBA, Expect huge win from USA basketball over Serbia?)

Full Show ( C.J. Stroud 2nd in MVP odds, Joel Embiid says he is 'hated" in NBA, Expect huge win from USA basketball over Serbia?)

Update: 2024-07-25
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The podcast begins with a discussion about the upcoming USA basketball game against Serbia, with the hosts speculating about the outcome and the point spread. They delve into the potential impact of Kevin Durant's return and the team's overall performance, highlighting the pressure to live up to the legacy of the 1992 Dream Team. The conversation then shifts to CJ Stroud's high odds to win the NFL MVP award, with the hosts debating whether his odds are justified considering his rookie season. They highlight Stroud's impressive statistics and the potential for the Browns to be a contender in the AFC. The hosts continue their discussion about the NFL MVP race, considering the strengths and weaknesses of various quarterbacks. They acknowledge the challenges Joe Burrow faces in a tough division, while also discussing the impact of Derek Henry on Lamar Jackson's MVP chances. They ultimately conclude that CJ Stroud's high odds are justified based on his potential and the Browns' improved roster. The conversation then shifts to Joel Embiid's recent comment about being the most hated player in the league, with the hosts debating the validity of his statement. They discuss the reasons for Embiid's criticism, including his perceived lack of fitness and playoff success. The hosts continue their discussion about the most hated player in the NBA, with Paul Pierce arguing that Jason Tatum is the most hated on, while Skip Bayless believes LeBron James is the most hated. They analyze the reasons for LeBron's criticism, including his perceived arrogance and his failure to deliver a championship in Los Angeles. The hosts discuss the impact of podcasts on player perception, suggesting that players may be more candid and revealing in informal settings like podcasts compared to traditional media interviews. They use Joel Embiid's recent comments as an example, noting that he might not have made the same statements in a formal setting. The conversation concludes with a discussion about LeBron James's second son, Bryce, and his growing basketball profile. The hosts speculate about the possibility of Bryce playing with his father on the Lakers, highlighting the increased scrutiny and pressure that comes with being a son of a legendary athlete. The discussion revolves around the scrutiny Bronny James faces as LeBron James' son and the potential he shows despite his relatively low scoring average. The speakers highlight his height, athleticism, and skill set, suggesting he has room for development. The conversation shifts to Trent Williams' contract situation with the San Francisco 49ers. The speakers discuss his value to the team, his desire for a guaranteed contract, and the potential for a holdout. They also analyze the NFL's contract system and the importance of guaranteed money. The discussion focuses on Jim Harbaugh's unique coaching style and his impact on the Los Angeles Chargers. The speakers analyze his "childbirth analogy" for the start of training camp and whether his quirky approach will continue to work in the NFL. They also discuss the Chargers' potential for success with Harbaugh at the helm. The speakers critique ESPN's ranking of the top 25 NFL players of the century, particularly the placement of Aaron Donald, Derek Brooks, and Terrell Owens. They argue that Brooks and Owens deserve higher rankings based on their accomplishments and impact on the game. The discussion revolves around Terrell Owens's time with the Philadelphia Eagles, highlighting potential locker room conflicts and why he might not be considered among the top 20 players of all time. The conversation shifts to the importance of quarterbacks in all-time rankings, arguing that their impact on the game makes them deserving of higher positions due to their unique skillset and the difficulty of the position. The discussion delves into a debate about the relative greatness of Aaron Donald and Brett Favre, with arguments presented for both players' impact on the game and their respective positions. The conversation focuses on Aaron Donald's exceptional skills and impact as a defensive tackle, highlighting his disruptive presence and comparing him to other all-time greats like Reggie White and Lawrence Taylor. The discussion turns to Randy Moss, acknowledging his unique talent and the debate over whether he should be ranked higher than quarterbacks like Drew Brees, Brett Favre, and Peyton Manning. The conversation shifts to Kevin Durant's potential return to Team USA, discussing the factors involved in his decision and the impact his presence would have on the team's performance. The discussion focuses on the betting odds for Team USA's upcoming game, analyzing the potential impact of Kevin Durant's return and how it might affect the spread. The conversation centers around Jalen Brown's all-time top five list, which notably excludes Michael Jordan, sparking debate and discussion about the reasons behind this omission.

Outlines

00:00:00
USA Basketball and the Upcoming Game Against Serbia

The podcast begins with introductions and a lighthearted exchange about the University of Southern California. The conversation then transitions to a discussion about the upcoming USA basketball game against Serbia, with the hosts speculating about the outcome and the point spread.

00:00:45
Analyzing the Point Spread and Team Dynamics

The hosts delve into the point spread for the USA vs. Serbia game, noting the significant drop from the initial 15.5-point favorite to 12.5 points. They discuss the potential impact of Kevin Durant's return and the team's overall performance, highlighting the pressure to live up to the legacy of the 1992 Dream Team.

00:19:06
Kevin Durant's Return and Chemistry Concerns

The conversation shifts to Kevin Durant's potential return and the challenges of integrating him into the team's chemistry. The hosts compare Durant to Roy Hobbs from "The Natural," emphasizing his natural talent and ability to contribute despite limited practice time. However, they also express concerns about his calf injury and the lack of on-court chemistry with his teammates.

00:23:51
CJ Stroud's High NFL MVP Odds

The discussion transitions to the NFL, specifically CJ Stroud's high odds to win the NFL MVP award. The hosts debate whether Stroud's odds are justified, considering his rookie season and the performance of other quarterbacks. They highlight Stroud's impressive statistics and the potential for the Browns to be a contender in the AFC.

00:28:42
Debating the NFL MVP Race

The hosts continue their discussion about the NFL MVP race, considering the strengths and weaknesses of various quarterbacks. They acknowledge the challenges Joe Burrow faces in a tough division, while also discussing the impact of Derek Henry on Lamar Jackson's MVP chances. They ultimately conclude that CJ Stroud's high odds are justified based on his potential and the Browns' improved roster.

00:37:47
Joel Embiid's "Most Hated" Comment

The conversation shifts to Joel Embiid's recent comment about being the most hated player in the league. The hosts debate the validity of his statement, with Paul Pierce arguing that Embiid doesn't truly understand what it means to be hated. They discuss the reasons for Embiid's criticism, including his perceived lack of fitness and playoff success.

00:42:38
The Most Hated Player in the NBA

The hosts continue their discussion about the most hated player in the NBA, with Paul Pierce arguing that Jason Tatum is the most hated on, while Skip Bayless believes LeBron James is the most hated. They analyze the reasons for LeBron's criticism, including his perceived arrogance and his failure to deliver a championship in Los Angeles.

00:44:55
The Impact of Podcasts on Player Perception

The hosts discuss the impact of podcasts on player perception, suggesting that players may be more candid and revealing in informal settings like podcasts compared to traditional media interviews. They use Joel Embiid's recent comments as an example, noting that he might not have made the same statements in a formal setting.

00:55:32
Bryce James's Rising Basketball Profile

The conversation concludes with a discussion about LeBron James's second son, Bryce, and his growing basketball profile. The hosts speculate about the possibility of Bryce playing with his father on the Lakers, highlighting the increased scrutiny and pressure that comes with being a son of a legendary athlete.

00:56:44
Scrutiny and Potential of Bronny James

The discussion revolves around the scrutiny Bronny James faces as LeBron James' son and the potential he shows despite his relatively low scoring average. The speakers highlight his height, athleticism, and skill set, suggesting he has room for development.

01:09:24
Trent Williams' Contract Standoff

The conversation shifts to Trent Williams' contract situation with the San Francisco 49ers. The speakers discuss his value to the team, his desire for a guaranteed contract, and the potential for a holdout. They also analyze the NFL's contract system and the importance of guaranteed money.

01:18:31
Jim Harbaugh's Quirky Style and the Chargers

The discussion focuses on Jim Harbaugh's unique coaching style and his impact on the Los Angeles Chargers. The speakers analyze his "childbirth analogy" for the start of training camp and whether his quirky approach will continue to work in the NFL. They also discuss the Chargers' potential for success with Harbaugh at the helm.

01:29:55
ESPN's Top 25 NFL Players of the Century

The speakers critique ESPN's ranking of the top 25 NFL players of the century, particularly the placement of Aaron Donald, Derek Brooks, and Terrell Owens. They argue that Brooks and Owens deserve higher rankings based on their accomplishments and impact on the game.

01:38:17
Terrell Owens's Controversial Philadelphia Tenure

The discussion revolves around Terrell Owens's time with the Philadelphia Eagles, highlighting potential locker room conflicts and why he might not be considered among the top 20 players of all time.

01:38:52
The Importance of Quarterbacks in All-Time Rankings

The conversation shifts to the importance of quarterbacks in all-time rankings, arguing that their impact on the game makes them deserving of higher positions due to their unique skillset and the difficulty of the position.

01:40:09
Aaron Donald vs. Brett Favre: A Debate on All-Time Greatness

The discussion delves into a debate about the relative greatness of Aaron Donald and Brett Favre, with arguments presented for both players' impact on the game and their respective positions.

01:42:53
Aaron Donald's Dominance and Impact on the Game

The conversation focuses on Aaron Donald's exceptional skills and impact as a defensive tackle, highlighting his disruptive presence and comparing him to other all-time greats like Reggie White and Lawrence Taylor.

01:45:50
Randy Moss: A Unique Talent and the Debate Over His Position

The discussion turns to Randy Moss, acknowledging his unique talent and the debate over whether he should be ranked higher than quarterbacks like Drew Brees, Brett Favre, and Peyton Manning.

01:47:40
Kevin Durant's Potential Return to Team USA

The conversation shifts to Kevin Durant's potential return to Team USA, discussing the factors involved in his decision and the impact his presence would have on the team's performance.

01:51:28
Betting Odds and Kevin Durant's Impact on Team USA

The discussion focuses on the betting odds for Team USA's upcoming game, analyzing the potential impact of Kevin Durant's return and how it might affect the spread.

01:54:22
Jalen Brown's All-Time Top Five and the Omission of Michael Jordan

The conversation centers around Jalen Brown's all-time top five list, which notably excludes Michael Jordan, sparking debate and discussion about the reasons behind this omission.

Keywords

Kevin Durant


American professional basketball player for the Phoenix Suns. Known for his exceptional scoring ability, versatility, and smooth shooting stroke. Has won two NBA championships and two NBA Finals MVP awards.

Serbia


A country in southeastern Europe. Known for its rich history, culture, and basketball tradition. The Serbian national basketball team has consistently been a force in international competition.

1992 Dream Team


The United States men's Olympic basketball team that competed in the 1992 Summer Olympics in Barcelona. Considered one of the greatest basketball teams ever assembled, featuring NBA superstars like Michael Jordan, Magic Johnson, and Larry Bird.

CJ Stroud


American professional football quarterback for the Cleveland Browns. Drafted by the Browns with the second overall pick in the 2023 NFL Draft. Known for his strong arm, accuracy, and mobility.

NFL MVP


The award given annually to the most valuable player in the National Football League. The award is voted on by a panel of media members and is considered one of the most prestigious honors in professional football.

Joel Embiid


Cameroonian-French professional basketball player for the Philadelphia 76ers. Known for his dominant post play, scoring ability, and defensive presence. Has won the NBA scoring title and has been named an NBA All-Star multiple times.

LeBron James


American professional basketball player for the Los Angeles Lakers. Widely considered one of the greatest basketball players of all time. Has won four NBA championships, four NBA Finals MVP awards, and four NBA MVP awards.

Bryce James


The second son of LeBron James. A rising basketball prospect who is currently 17 years old. Known for his height, athleticism, and potential to follow in his father's footsteps.

Bronny James


Bronny James is the son of NBA legend LeBron James. He is a high school basketball player who is currently being recruited by several colleges. He is known for his athleticism, height, and potential.

Q&A

  • What are the hosts' predictions for the USA vs. Serbia game, and how does Kevin Durant's potential return factor into their analysis?

    The hosts believe the USA will win, but they are concerned about the point spread, which has dropped significantly. They think Durant's return would boost the USA's chances of covering the spread, but they also acknowledge the challenges of integrating him into the team's chemistry.

  • Why is CJ Stroud's high NFL MVP odds generating so much discussion?

    Stroud's high odds are surprising because he is a rookie, and the hosts are debating whether his performance justifies such a high ranking. They acknowledge his impressive statistics and the Browns' improved roster, but they also consider the performance of other quarterbacks.

  • What are the main reasons for Joel Embiid's criticism, and why do the hosts believe he doesn't truly understand what it means to be hated?

    Embiid's criticism stems from his perceived lack of fitness and playoff success. The hosts argue that he doesn't truly understand what it means to be hated because he hasn't experienced the level of animosity that other players have faced.

  • How does the podcast format influence player perception, and how does this relate to Joel Embiid's recent comments?

    The hosts believe that players may be more candid and revealing in informal settings like podcasts compared to traditional media interviews. They suggest that Embiid's comments about being the most hated player in the league might not have been made in a formal setting.

  • What are the hosts' thoughts on Bryce James's basketball potential, and what challenges does he face as the son of a legendary athlete?

    The hosts are impressed by Bryce's basketball skills and believe he has the potential to be a successful player. However, they acknowledge the increased scrutiny and pressure that comes with being the son of LeBron James, which could make it difficult for him to develop his own identity as a player.

  • What are the key factors that make Trent Williams so valuable to the San Francisco 49ers?

    Trent Williams is a dominant offensive tackle who provides crucial protection for the quarterback. His experience, skill, and leadership make him a vital asset to the team's success.

  • How does Jim Harbaugh's coaching style differ from other coaches in the NFL?

    Harbaugh is known for his intense, demanding, and sometimes quirky approach. He emphasizes hard work, discipline, and a strong team culture. His unique style has been successful at both the college and professional levels.

  • Why do the speakers believe that Derek Brooks and Terrell Owens deserve higher rankings on ESPN's Top 25 NFL Players of the Century list?

    The speakers argue that Brooks and Owens were dominant players who had a significant impact on the game. They believe their accomplishments and contributions warrant a higher ranking than they received on the list.

  • Why is Terrell Owens not considered among the top 20 players of all time, despite his impressive statistics?

    While Owens had impressive statistics, his controversial personality and potential locker room conflicts might have contributed to his lower ranking.

Show Notes

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(00:00 ) Expect a huge win from Team USA basketball over Serbia?

(23:54 ) Surprised to see C.J. Stroud with the 2nd best MVP odds?

(38:00 ) Is it true that Joel Embiid is hated within the NBA

(55:46 ) Video of LeBron James' son Bryce is going viral

(1:07:48 ) Trent Williams not at 49ers camp over contract issues

(1:18:44 ) Jim Harbaugh says beginning training camp with the Chargers "feels like being born"

(1:30:11 ) Reaction to Top 25 NFL players of the 2000s

(1:47:41 ) Smart to keep Kevin Durant on the Team USA roster?

(1:54:32 ) Jaylen Brown names his all-time starting 5 and leaves Michael Jordan off

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